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As life opens up for much of Australia, the two most populated states are battling to contain a growing number of COVID cases. Victoria is now cut off from all states, with several areas in complete lockdown, AFL teams are fleeing north and businesses facing loss upon loss . The Government says more financial help is on the way, but how long can the country afford this stop-start scenario? Joining Hamish to discuss this are: Sarah Henderson, Liberal Senator for Victoria; Adam Bandt, Leader of the Australian Greens; Margy Osmond, CEO of the Tourism and Transport Forum; Jodie McVernon, Epidemiologist, Doherty Institute; and L-FRESH the LION, Hip Hop artist from south-west Sydney . Also includes a live cross to Michael Gunner, Chief Minister of the Northern Territory.